Welcome to Historically Adjacent! Join Blaine, Ryan & Russ as they each tell three stories from history that the other two haven't heard.
Welcome to Historically Adjacent! Join Blaine, Ryan & Russ as they each tell three stories from history that the other two haven't heard.
Discussed this week:
Gene "Shep " Shepherd
Galvarino
Tomoaki Hamatsu
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Hey everybody, welcome to Historically Adjacent. I'm Blaine Zimmerman. I'm joined as always by Ryan and Russ. We're really excited about this season. It's a new format. I think that it's been really fun. We've had some really good feedback about this season. We've had some people that have jumped in this season and they're like, now I wanna go check out the President ones. Yeah, absolutely, please do. And the American Gladiator ones. Yeah, yeah. And so for this episode, we're gonna go ahead and start with.
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our good friend Ryan Ahlwardt. Let's do it. Ryan, why don't you take it away? Okay, so being a proud Hoosier of over 30 years, I wanted to do a very Indiana story today. One of my favorite authors, probably top three, came from our beautiful Hoosier state. Jim Davis? No, it's not Jim Davis, although we are in a big season of Garfield in our home right now. Our daughter Olivia is addicted to Garfield. Was Nermal, Nermal was the cutest cat, right? Nermal was the cutest, yes. And there was no.
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Relationship between Garfield and Nermal. He was just annoyed that Nermal was a cute little kitten. Yeah, then I can't remember Odie. Is it Irma? What was the other cat who was like the female? What was John's girlfriend's name? Maybe that was... Oh, yeah Heathcliff. No
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Was Heathcliff kind of, now that I think about it, he was like just knockoff Garfield, wasn't he? Oh, 100%. He lived in a junkyard. And your daughter just had a Garfield-themed birthday? She did, yeah, for her nine-year birthday. Did Thorne bake the cake? I saw the cake look great. No, the cake was purchased, but it was fantastic. Tasted delicious.
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Yeah, like striped. Yeah, or was it an actual an entire Garfield? No, that was what Lauren Lauren made an entire giant cardboard of pin the tail on Garfield Did anybody get the tail? Shout out to Lauren who's really good in the show that Ryan does that Russ hasn't seen yet. Oh, yeah I haven't seen that show yet. Yeah, it is a really cool show. There's yeah, but it's gonna come
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Polly Darten. Polly Darten's one of my favorite parts of the show. Our muppet that Lauren handles. My other favorite part is texting Russ what's happening in the show. Hold on a second. And then Ryan leaning down going don't do that. There's muppets in it? Hey there might be, you might just have to come on November 22nd. What, November 22nd? November, night before Thanksgiving. All right. Yeah. Oh, I'll go back, I'll go again. It's also the- I'm only going if Blaine's not going. Blaine, you can't come. It's also the 60th anniversary that night of JFK's assassination. Is that why you did it? Oh it is, yeah. Yeah.
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My dad said, my dad is coming and he's like, I could stand up and recite by memory the poem that I wrote about that. No thanks. And I was like, nah dad, we're good. We didn't need that. We're good, dad. Are you sure? Cause that might be good. Are any of your super fans coming? It also could be great. We met at what the night, the night I went was the opening night of this. And then there were podcast pants. Yeah. Yeah, it was, it was. Cause like I got, there was like a thing, there was like a meet and greet after the show where everybody got to come like take a picture in front of a step and repeat.
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with Ryan and Lauren. And at one point Ryan was like, Blaine, get over here, they want a picture with you. And I was like, why? I was here to watch the show, why do they want a picture with me? Because they love the podcast. Yeah, and they also like cornered me in the bathroom. Oh. Yeah, like I'd like, I'd like open the door to like walking out of the bathroom. Go ahead. It's a different scenario if they cornered you when you're walking into the bathroom. No, I walked out and this lady was like, oh, you're Blaine from the podcast. And I was like, I, I am not. I wash my hands, I promise. I am, yes. So anyway, Garfield.
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Garfield. It's not Jim Davis. But it's James Garfield. Anyway, all right, cool. Gene Shepard is who we're talking about tonight. Also known as Shep to his friends, he was an American storyteller and humorist, a radio and TV personality, a writer and an actor. What comes to mind when I say you'll shoot your eye out? Christmas story. A Christmas story. There it is, the author of the Christmas story. Also the narrator of my favorite movie, A Christmas Story. Gene Shepard narrates his.
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It is a semi-autobiographical piece of him growing up in Hammond, Indiana, up in Lake County near Chicago. Region rats. Kind of the west side of the Rust Belt, the upper Midwest. It's such a good movie. It's great. It's not one of my favorites. That's okay. Really? Yeah. Christmas movies, National Lampoon, number one. Yeah, it's great. We always watch Love, actually. We always watch... Die Hard. Bad Santa, Bad Santa is good. And new to our rotation because I've...
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just a weird dude is this Mel Gibson movie where he's Santa but he's also like a former operator. Oh is that like bad Santa also? No, no, it's like John Wick. Yeah it's dark like Santa is like a weird one. And Walton Goggins is the dude that's coming after him. Okay. Because of everything. It's dude it is so freaking good.
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It's called Fat Man, right? Fat Man. Yeah, because that's like, there's a, Walton Goggins gets to say the titular line in the movie, fuck I'm gonna get you, Fat Man. Do you think a Christmas story is the most viewed? Like by, like, like, like. It has to be. TBS plays it 24 straight hours. TBS has it for the entire day. If you are in America, you have seen a Christmas story. Yeah. It's just, I think that's maybe why it's not one of my favorites, because it's.
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So ubiquitous. It's so overdone. Like it's everywhere. I got that. I like it. Shep narrated that. He also makes a cameo in that movie. His name is Shep? Like he was a three stooge? They called him Shep. That was his nickname. After Alan Shepard. Gene Shepard. Oh. But that was one of the three. It was the fourth stooge, right? I don't know. Shemp. OK. Yeah. I knew you would know. Yeah. He is the guy in Bigby's department store, or Higby's.
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Is it Higby? It doesn't matter. When Ralphie is going to see Santa with his brother. Is he the mean elf? No. He's the guy who says, hey kid, the line starts down that way. Speaking of that, Ralphie's an elf. Ralphie is an elf. He's like the head elf. Oh, that's right. Yeah. That's one of my favorite Christmas movies. I love elf. Bye buddy, hope you find your dad. Thanks Mr. Narwhal. Bye buddy. Bye Mr. Arctic Puffin.
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I love that movie. Bye buddy. Is that your favorite Christmas movie? No, I told you National Lampoon's Christmas. Oh, that's right. That's pretty great. Every year the day after Thanksgiving is when I put up Christmas lights. I have a Blackhawks Clark Griswold jersey. Nice. From the movie with the double zero that says Griswold on the back, I put that on to put Christmas lights up every year. One of my favorite scenes in that it is excellent comedic acting is when he's at the lingerie counter and he's so nervously talking to the girl.
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puts the underwear in a non-existent pocket. Barely see the lines, Russ. Anyway, all right, so Gene Shepard, born in 1921 in Chicago, relocates to Hammond right outside the city, sporadically attends IU. I don't think he graduates, serves stateside during World War II in the Signal Corps, which, Blaine, what would that be? What does it say? Radio people. Radio people, okay. Which actually is foreshadowing for his career because he went from...
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being on the radio in Hammond to Toledo to Cincinnati. He then went to Philadelphia, back to Cincinnati. Great city. Oh, he's going to Cincinnati a lot as a radio DJ. WKRP in Cincinnati. He goes to New York City in the mid-50s and that's where he really gets a large fan base telling these stories. Some are fictional, some are autobiographical. He reads some poetry by some of his favorite poets. Like, he's based. Like your dad.
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He reads a poem about JFK being shot. My dad did write a poem about JFK's assassination as a child. Gene Shepard is like the precursor to Garrison Keillor. Yeah, very much so. So like the American satirist humor writer. Oh, like, oh, what's my, I have an author that I'm a big fan of, David Sedaris. Yeah, yeah. David Sedaris is a great satirist. A lot of those guys, actually, Jerry Seinfeld says that this guy.
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He said, what's the deal with the Christmas story? He actually named his third child Shepherd after Gene Shepherd. He said essentially he wouldn't be in comedy if it weren't for Gene Shepherd. It's funny, really? I know Russ is also a big Seinfeld fan like I am. Yeah, I'm not. That's a lie. Like Comedy Central now is basically like three TV shows and they just do long runs like every Tuesday or Wednesday is Seinfeld day. One of my favorite episodes is on last week and I was texting Russ and I was like.
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This episode is on today and now I don't remember which one it was. It was a oh, what was it? Do you remember? No, I don't remember at all. I don't know. Do we want to start naming sign? If you think about seinfeld, what's he most it was the one where they were all trying to go see prognosis negative Yeah, how would you describe seinfeld's like humor of like what he's talking about like a sydney rooney Well, it's it's like lived like it's situational like a storytelling. I guess and it's usually based around something minor
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Yeah, yeah, so that he traces he's like this show about nothing Jean Shepherd taught me how to do comedy There's a quote. He says he really formed my entire comedic sensibility. I learned how to do comedy from Jean Shepherd Who's your favorite comedian? Robin Williams and that's not just comedy but that encompasses his acting as well. Sure. I mean, that's a really good one Yeah, I don't know. I really I really I truly think mine's Mitch Hedberg. Oh, yeah. Yeah
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Like it's like the way his brain works. Sure. It just, and the fact that he could just do an entire hour of one liners. Like that's super face. Yeah. Yeah. Straight face. Everything was a one liner. It was all very like, Oh, why have I never thought about that? Yeah. He also, when he was on the radio, he did this famous stunt. It was basically a hoax about a book that did not exist. He was talking about how easy it is to manipulate bestseller lesson. He's like, by the way, you guys got to read this book. I libertine.
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by Frederick R. Ewing does not exist. He told us people, he was like, go to your nearest bookstore and tell them you gotta get iLibertyne in on the shelves. Well, it drives up demand for this fake book that eventually does get on a bestseller list, even though it doesn't even exist. How do books get on a bestseller list? Is it just by word of mouth? I don't know. I don't know what the... I always just assumed it was because they sold a lot. That's what I thought too, but this is real. I don't know. Maybe there's a publisher thing. Back then, there was probably not a thing called data, though. Yeah. That's true.
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And then he had this wildly non-existent book that he decided, well, I might as well write I've Libertine Later in Life, which ended up being very successful. He published a lot of these short stories in Playboy. He then, he was, you read the articles because of Gene Shepard. He wrote books. I've read, I think all of them. She got published in a magazine. I've read all these actually. I'm looking at the list. In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash.
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Wanda Hickey's Night of Golden Memories and Other Disasters, The Ferrari in the Bedroom, and A Fistful of Fig Newtons. Which is great. So he's- They sound like Dave Barry books. It sounds like David Sedaris too. Or Sedaris, who's the female Dave Barry? There's no way we're gonna pull this. I don't know. No, yeah.
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I don't know. It's okay. We're moving on. I wanna give you some quotes because he writes a lot about Indiana, which is what I love about this guy. This is from, in God we trust all others pay cash. He says, quote, I will have to describe to you what a lake in the summer in Northern Indiana is like. To begin with, heat in Indiana is something else again. It descends like a 300 pound fat lady onto a picnic bench in the middle of July. Yes. It can literally be sliced. We experienced that last weekend. It can literally be sliced into chunks and stored away in the basement to use in winter.
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On cold days, you just bring it out and turn it on. Like the way he talks about the mundanity of life in northern Indiana, it actually makes you want to experience it. He has some really cool writings about. Nothing about what you just said made me want to experience it. Nothing about, well, let me back up. I award you no points. Points to McGod, have mercy on yourself. The way he writes about the. That's a very Garrison Keillor thing to do. Make people want to go to a place like Minnesota. The way he writes about the Indiana State Fair.
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in like the mid-50s, that makes you want to invent a time machine. That's amazing, yeah. Or he's talking about the experience that he had with his dad and I think his uncle, or maybe it was a dad's friend, driving from Hammond to go to the Indianapolis 500. And it's like mid-50s talking about like the two-lane country highways in the middle of nowhere Indiana are slammed. Shout out to our podcast guest, Stingray Robb, that's driven in the Indianapolis 500. Good full circle member right there.
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Which is kind of cool. I say the Christmas story is somewhat autobiographical, but it's compiled where like he's pulling from these different stories and like the dad in the Christmas story tries to imagine that he's in the pit at the 500. That's basically based on him remembering what it was like to sit in his dad's car going to the 500 and seeing it. He talks about comments that his dad makes watching dirt racing at the state fair or like looking at the crown pig.
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you know, the award winning pig at the state fair and just like his, like his quotes that he does. What a pig. Charlotte. Wait, what was the name of the pig? Wilbur. Wilbur is the pig. He also acted on TV though radio really made him the, the name that he is today. But I just, I think the Christmas story made the name. Yeah. Yeah. And actually the Christmas story was then written after the movie came out. Like he was like, he basically has this moment in one of the books that has it's not called
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The chapter is not called the Christmas story or a Christmas story But he then the book was written after the fact Because of the success of the movie which was pulled from all these different stories and he's like here's a Christmas story And then they wrote the book later. They actually have a musical of the Christmas story. Yeah, I love his writing I love his tone. I love his humor. I love the fact that it's Midwest and it's obviously here in Indiana but I think I love the impact that this guy made that and this is sort of the thread with the presidents were like
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the legacy aspect of it, if he's got a guy who's like Jerry Seinfeld, who's saying I'm a comedian because of this guy, you know, who made a movie called comedian. Yeah. Yeah. It's similar in the sense of like when we, what Jerry Seinfeld made a movie, we call comedian. Yeah. Okay. It's, it's similar to the concept of how we looked at the presidents that were like, how are we still impacted today based like on what you did. You did ask us that question every time. Yeah.
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How would the United States be different if James Garfield didn't do X, Y, Z or whatever? Or if Gene Shepard didn't. Yeah, he's in the National Radio Hall of Fame. He's influenced people from Jerry Seinfeld to Donald Fagan from Steely Dan. Whoa, really? Why? Because everybody has seen that movie. Donald Fagan from Steely Dan had a solo album called The Night Fly, which was... He basically wrote an album based on this character that he kind of made Gene Shepard the archetype for, which is kind of cool.
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Got his name from that Oliver Twist guy. Who's that? Fagan? Oh Really? You guys remember that the one who got the kids together to be? Yeah, pickpockets stealing in the Jewish archetype. I didn't know that. Yeah, he's terrible
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Steely Dan named after an adult marital aid, Steely Dan. What? Steely Dan is named after a vibrator. Oh. Yeah. Okay. On that note, we're going to take a quick break. Yeah. That was Gene Shepherd. When we come back, we're going to hear from, I think, Russ next? Yeah, sure. All right. Stay with us. We'll be right back. Facing the transition out of the military is rarely easy. It doesn't help that the staggering number of options you're faced with can be overwhelming.
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This is the portion of the episode that I like to call. What do we think Russ is gonna talk about? Oh, okay. Oh gosh. I think it's going to be, let's see, somebody that is like has carnival adjacent capabilities. Oh, okay. That's not too far off. I'm gonna go a little mad science, a little. Oh, Russ does love science. Except for right now, he's not reading science books. I'm not reading science books. What are you reading? The man who.
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mistook his wife for a hat. A hat. It's a movie, I think, too. Is it? I think so. What are you reading right now, right? I'm finishing up a book by a guy named Bob Goff called Dream Big, and then I'm gonna start reading an American Revolution book. There's a book that I think you would like written by one of the Pixar originators. Is it Creativity, Inc.? Yeah. Yeah, I've read it. It's good. Yeah, it's very much a Ryan Alwark book. John Lasseter is his name. I'm reading a book called The Next America. What's that? Oh.
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written by one of the founders of the Pew Research Center. Oh, okay. About like, and it was, it's recent, it's written post-COVID. Okay. About like where we're at. Yeah. And where we're probably going. Interesting. It was a book that was recommended and purchased for everybody in my SKL class. What's SKL? Just for those who don't know. The Stanley K. Lacey Leadership Series. I was selected to be a part of this year long program. Really excited about it. Only 25 people in Indianapolis get selected for it every year. Super exciting. That's huge.
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All right, Russ. All right, Russ, what do you got? All right. Carnival adjacent. Mad science. Yeah, I mean, that's actually so 500 years ago. And what were the early years of South America's? 1523. Roughly 1523. Columbus sailed. In South America, there was the Arauco War. A-R-A-U-C-O. An army of. I'm going to like step up on not being able to pronounce things for my story. So don't worry. Arauco.
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Don't take Zell-Jans and it's like, yeah, no crap. Yeah, where they show them on a boat and like they keep a good hope, you know. Yeah. Taking Zell-Jans. Oh, because it's always like an older couple that are like living out their golden years. And you're like, yeah, but if you take this drug, you'll have longer. Yeah, you will. Risk-inclined explosive diarrhea. Yeah. Deaf. There's one recently that is very podcast adjacent to us because one of the side effects is a rash of...
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the perineum. Ah, yes. And I was like, oh, the cul-de-sac of Douglas. That's what you mean there. You take this, you might have an itchy taint. That's a very specific side effect. It is. And I think it's like Zeljanz. It's like a nasal spray for some reason just makes your taint itch. Where on earth do they come up with the names for those drugs? Because it's not like Zeljanz. I think that it's like there's no Latin to it. No, I think there is. I think that it's like.
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the etymology of whatever the drug is, and then they find something in the middle that they can just mark it. Yeah, or they just smush it together. Yeah. Uh-huh. I don't know where Cialis came from. Well, that's dumb. Besides, Bob Dolph. Why would they do that? Why would they come up with a catchy name? We're sitting in two distinct tubs by ourselves, looking over a mountain. Someone's gotta get out of the tub. Take our boner pill. Okay, all right, Russ. All right, the Arruco War. Arruco, yeah, yeah. It was where the Spanish conquistadors battled.
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like 7,000, several thousand Mapuche Indians, and they slaughtered a bunch of people in a war. Yeah, okay, key stores were like the American Legion of conquerors. They had their very distinct hats. Yeah, they're like the American Legion of conquerors. Yeah. The funny hat clubs, is what I call them. So in one of these battles, in southern Chile, Chile. Chile. Chile. Chile. Near the.
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There's an Indiana connection to Chile by the way. The Bayo-Bayo River, B-I-O-B-I-O. Which river is it by? It's by the Bayo-Bayo. Bayo-Bayo. The Spanish captured 150 Mapuche prisoners. Among them, a young chiefdom named Galvarino. Galvarino. Have you guys heard of Galvarino? Yeah, he won the World Cup for Chile in 1946. Oh, that sounds good. Galvarino, I've heard of galvanized, but I haven't heard of Galvarino. All right.
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Galvarino definitely sounds like a Brazilian football player. Oh, for sure. No last name. Yeah. Like an Italian mafia. He scores a goal, like slides on his knees and then points at his back. Galvarino! Yeah. Galvarino! Goal! No, no, no, no, no!
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So after they captured Galvarino and 150 others, they marched them back to their encampment and gave them a very quick trial, as one does. A swift talking to. A swift talking to, a swift trial. You guys can't understand a word that we're saying, can you? Yeah. And then after the trial, when they were found guilty, how would they even do a trial? I don't know. Well, yeah.
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could make it seem all in up and up because that's how we do it in the old country. Cause the conquistadors are all in the up and up. All right. Uh, no governor. There's the Spanish inquisition. Who was the one who burnt his ships? He's like, we're staying here. Was that a, you've heard the term burn the ships now where it's like he's, he's basically like, no, we're staying put here. Like they didn't.
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allow kill again trips back to the motherland anyway continue okay i've never heard of that before yeah you should look it up i'll look it up governor garcia hurtado de mendoza the spanish leader ordered the troops to sever the right hand and nose of each warrior okay nose just i don't know because do you know that the the right hand and nose okay yeah all right because at the time like left-handed people would have been non-existent basically
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So we're getting rid of you're getting rid of the hand that can do anything. Yes. Yeah Is this where the term right hand man comes from? Yes. No, no, okay Galvaria. All right. Yeah, so he ordered him to sever the right hand to the nose of each warrior But according to the legend after Galvarino had his left hand hacked off. He bravely offered up his right hand He was like, let's do it guys. Yeah, it's exactly do it
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Yeah, and then supposedly he he didn't flinch like they cut off both. I like this guy Yeah, he's like, I don't need either of these hands for my football skills. Fine. Yeah fine I had one nub now. Guess what? I'm never getting a handball. That's right. Yeah That's what I'm never getting a handball What's a handbill is that like a pamphlet a handbill would be a pamphlet Yeah, like a thomas pain post no bills. Yeah, he then asked his torturers to deliver the killing blow
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But they was like, do it, do it, kill me. I dare you. I don't have hands. So it's really worthless at this point. So it's not going to bother me at all. You got no arms left. Tis but a scratch. Catch your arm off. So Galvarino and the dozens of other mutilated warriors were then freed and ordered to tell the Mapuche general to surrender and prevent any kind of further bloodshed. So they sent him back as a message. Right off.
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Mm-hmm. Yeah, okay. He's like hey, this isn't going well. We should probably yeah, so Galvarino didn't do that instead He urged anything instead he urged cow Capulet see a you to pull oh L. I see a Accent a can I see it really good. I want to give it a shot. Yeah, here we go. That's uh Capulet can Capulet can I'm not giving a Can I believe you those gestures would have been interesting to see
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Uh-huh. Because he's, he ain't got no hands. He doesn't have any hands. But then he raised them in the air, his bloody stumps, and that's what like, they were like, yes, we're gonna follow this guy, like, he's hardcore, he wants to go back. As long as he holds them in the air, they'll win the battle. Little did they know. So then his brothers have to hold his arms up, yeah. Right, he's gotta keep them elevated so he doesn't bleed out. Yeah, true, they gotta cauterize that. Yeah.
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They said, a man with no hands is often more effective to incite war than the hands of Hercules and the industry of Caesar's. How did they know about Hercules and Caesar? I don't know, they were educated? You must think they were educated? How? Are the Conquistadors talking about this? Or the, the, um, the- That had to be after the fact. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, it must be after the fact. Yeah. Revisionist history. I guess. But what good is somebody who doesn't have hands against an enemy? Not much. Right, there's not much. And Galvarino-
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knew that. So before the next offensive, he fastened knives to both of his wrists. How? How? With his feet? So it's like that Quentin Tarantino movie where they put the M16 on the lady's leg? Yeah. There's no record of how big the knives were or how sharp though, but he had...
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what looked like gleaming blades sprouting from his stumps. He was the first Wolverine. How did he get these fastened to his stumps? Someone else had to either have hands or he had to duct tape. They referred to him as lances. Dexterous feet. Uh-huh, they called him lances and... Aliens. They must have effectively cauterized to even allow the attempt of something. Yeah. And I think they just like wrapped it around it, maybe like... Sure. Like with a... Bamboo. With a tourniquet type of thing. Sure.
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Yeah, who a tourniquet don't they use in to his arms? I don't think they went like what I imagined They were like a tourniquet to stop the blood and to attach to the knife. Okay. Yeah, it's like dual-purpose because he had stumps He did have stumps it was a Cortez who burned the ships by the way Oh, yeah, and then terrible and conquered the Aztecs have some blank and never found gold. No never did El Dorado nor the city Yeah
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November 30th 1557. So we were close. Yeah. Yeah, I mean not exactly we were close. Sure I mean I didn't give you all the information though. No, I get it less than a month after his capture Galvarino was on the front line of what became known as the Battle of Mila Mila Rapo No, Milwaukee Algonquin for the good Thanks Alice Cooper, you know Alice Cooper says scratch golfer. Yeah, I did know that like what an amazing image
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of Alice Cooper on the golf course and like it bothers me he could just Tear me apart on the golf course, but I would not turn down the opportunity to play golf without scooper. That would be fascinating Do you think Marilyn Manson is a good golfer? No, he's problematic. We're not allowed to talk about him. No, I bet he's not Yeah, there's zero chance Marilyn Manson's good at golf. I can I don't think I'll put it out there right now
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Marilyn Manson, if you want to beat me at golf, you come to my home golf course. And the gauntlet has been thrown. Yeah, the gauntlet has been thrown. I will play Marilyn Manson golf at winding ridge golf course in Lawrence township. Come on, let's go. Indiana. All right, let's go. Knives on your stumps. There's water in the first hole. You got to stay away from the hills in the second hole. I mean, there's a hole. Yeah, so he wouldn't know that. You'd beat Marilyn Manson on it. Yeah, no, I guarantee you, I guarantee you. I think that's a golf saying. I'll beat Marilyn Manson. Yeah.
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I think that's what golfers say. I'm so good at beating Marilyn Manson. That's epitaph status right there. So the plan- Yeah, that's going on my grave. He would have beat Marilyn Manson at golf had Marilyn Manson ever played him. Yeah, pussy. Yeah.
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Okay, the plan was to ambush the Spanish encampment and overwhelm them with artillery and horses. But the Mapuchos sprang the trap too quickly and despite- Knife hands. Yeah. Well, as they were attacking, they were hit with cannon fire and all 3,000 Mapuche were killed. Yikes. That's a lot of Mapuches. Yeah, which was just like, compared to like minor injuries on the Spanish side. So they were absolutely overwhelmed. They had brass.
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Not a saxophone. No, not yet. That's a woodwind. Yeah, the reason Chile has a Indiana like bent to it go on they went bankrupt as a country and they were supposed to host the 1987 Pan American game when they went bankrupt we were supposed to host what was four years later 1991 and So the Pan American game said kid you do it early. Wait 91 you said 84 87. I'm sorry So the Commission said can you do it early?
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And we were like, yeah, we can do it early. And then Fidel Castro was like, they bribed him. They gave him a $5 million bribe because we wanted to host. And there are a few people from Indianapolis that went to Cuba to talk Fidel Castro into allowing Cuba to play in the Pan Am games because he was going to boycott the games. I got to interview three of the people that went to Cuba, that went to Fidel Castro's house to talk him into letting Cuba into the 1987.
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That's crazy. That's wild. She lays like tie into Indiana. How bad did Fidel Castro want to play in those Pan Am games? Cause he was an athlete, right? He was a baseball. Yeah. Baseball player, basketball player. I sent you that video. Fidel Castro, he could throw down. He could hoop. Yeah. I bet he wanted to play. I bet that was one of his like negotiating things. One of his negotiations was he was going to be able to fly here over Washington, DC without any, uh, U S intervention. And they were like, that's not happening. It was the one thing they didn't give him.
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He's like the reverse Dennis Rodman. He's the dictator trying to be, yeah. There's a really good podcast about it called Hidden Indie. Oh. It's episode seven of Hidden Indie. Blaine is being humble. Blaine co-created that. Yeah, but it's really cool, because in that episode you literally hear from the people that went to Fidel Castro's house. Will you put that in the show notes? Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, cool. Because one of the guys we interview is now the current president of the IndyCar. Oh, wow. Like he was 30.
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30 or 31 when he flew to Fidel Castro's house. His name is Mark Miles. That's nutty. And I remember that was like a very pinch me moment sitting in Mark Miles office on turn three, I think. No, turn four being like, I don't know how we got here and how we're talking about this. It was just like, I asked and he said yes. Yeah. Like now we're sitting in this office. Our visit to the Benjamin Harrison home here. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh wow, just sometimes things happen. Shout out Charlie Hyde.
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If you just ask. Scores of Marputu were slaughtered while just some wounding on the Spanish side and all their horses were killed. Scores of dead horses. But it was said that- That's a good band name. Scores of dead horses. Yeah. While Galvarino was leading his troops basically with his knife arms.
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I went every wedding to picture that because I pictured it a lot since I've run this. I'm picturing a man in a loincloth with knives loosely tied around his hands just like stabbing. He's kind of punch-stabbing. Running a punch-stab. Actually, that was his catchphrase. He'd be like, punch-stab, punch-stab, punch-stab, punch-stab. I really wish that he had gone through and like...
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kicked ass. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he didn't know what happened. So it's just this crazy guy yelling punch dab that just dies. Well, he didn't die in that battle. He was lost foot. And then he tied a knife around the foot. He was like punch or stab kick, stab kick, stab. After the battle, he and his men were sentenced to hang the ones that he was like, do it. I dare you. I've already, we've gone through this. And they like the Spanish. And he was like,
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Hand cut and then he cut the rope that the noose was on. That's what I was waiting They never cut the they were like shot. We probably should cut the knives off We should have got rid of his knife hands really poor choice on our part You can't hang a guy with knife hands I bet they tried to pardon him like the because there was such an uprising when he was caught from the incubus Tim from the yeah That they were trying to pardon him and he said cuz his knife hands cut to the rope
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deep incubus cut reference. That's what I do. You know what a succubus is? Yeah. An incubus and a succubus. Incubus, pardon me. Oh yeah. Yeah. They do a lot of real Midwest emo guitar riffs and if you don't know incubus, you clearly didn't go to college in the early 2000s. Succubus is what? They do a lot of the, there's a succubus and an incubus. You know the succubus from South Park, she tried to marry Chef. Yeah. Oh my babies get married. Succubus is a female demon.
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That has sex with sleeping men. Yeah. Yeah, there was a whole episode on South Park where the succubus was gonna marry chef What's a harpy? Hold on an incubus is an evil spirit that lies on person in their sleep so Blanket an incubus has sex with sleeping women a Succubus has sex with sleeping men. Oh Okay
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That really sheds a bad light on ink if it says band like are they are we gonna build Cosby? I agree to build Cosby story about them. What happened with knife hands? He said I would rather die than live like you and then they killed him He's basically the Nathaniel Hale of the 1500s in Chile
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He sounds awesome. I don't know how that's carnival adjacent, honestly. He's got no hands. He's got knife for hands. He's knife hand man. Okay. He's knife hands. He's the first Wolverine. We know the knife hand. So we're gonna take a break and when we come back, I'm gonna tell a story about a guy that to my knowledge has not died. Oh. Because both stories up to this point, yeah, yet. We don't know that it will. We already did a whole episode on Jimmy Carter. That's true.
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He's still alive. So we will be back after this brief message from one of our sponsors. Punch dab! Blaine, you look different. Did you get a haircut? Oh, I did. Thanks for asking. Oh, it looks nice. People have been noticing more often since I've started going to Chop Chop Barbershop. Say that one more time. People have noticed more often since I've been going to Chop Chop Barbershop. Chop Chop. Yeah. It's a super cool, very clean spot over...
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From fades to braids to kitty cuts to the coolest barbershop there is I don't wanna look bad so I'm gonna go to Chop Chop Barbershop Yeah Doop doop yeah Welcome back everybody Thank you Russ Ryan already told us a story Yep And now it's Blaine's turn Yep Alright so like Russ I'm gonna really struggle with some pronunciations here That's fine Tomoaki Hamatsu
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You say Milwaukee? Tomo-waki. T-O-M-O-A-K-I. Tomo-waki. Where are we going? Tomo-waki. Hamatsu. Japanese comedian, he's currently still alive. Why we know about him? So, Hamatsu, he was selected to be on this game show in Japan. Okay. Those game shows are wild. Japanese game shows are.
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What was the kind of dystopian one that the what game the squid game? Oh, yeah Oh, that was Korean. Yeah, I think anyway, so he was he won a lottery for a show business related job Okay, and he was selected to be on the show sounds like a crazy call susu uno denpa shonen From uno denpa shonen from January 1998 to March of 2002 He was challenged to stay. What was the dates? January 1998
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to March of 2002. That's a long run for it. He essentially, the producers dropped him into this apartment naked, completely naked. Okay, this lines up with what I think about Japanese game shows. And he had to enter mail-in sweepstakes until he won one million yen. Why did he have to be naked? Because he wasn't allowed to have anything. All he was allowed to have was magazines in the room and he...
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could enter sweepstakes from the magazines and he had to earn like he had to win, like to be able to like earn clothes, food. I would like to reiterate Ryan's question. Why didn't he need to be naked? Because we had to win. The point was he had to win from mail-in sweepstakes, everything. So he was starting with nothing. So he's in a barren apartment naked with just magazines.
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that had mail-in sweepstakes that he had to enter and to win the game he had to win a million yen. Okay, hold on. First of all, Playboy magazines, I assume, Gene Shepard articles.
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You have to wait a while for those to get mailed back to you. Yeah, you sure do. Like this guy all day every day, going through magazines. Sure do. Like publishers clearing house? Started with nothing, including clothes. Obviously we've established that. We've definitely established that. He's cut off from all outside communication and broadcasting and he had nothing to keep in company except for those magazines. It took him 335 days. Hold, wait. How did he eat? Oh, we'll get there.
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Wait, hold on. Did he? Okay. Did he know he was being filmed? Yeah, because he knew he was on a game show. He was on Susunudashenai. So the only thing that he like would get as, uh, as possessions he would have to win through these sweepstakes. I don't understand. He was like, they must've been rigging these sweepstakes. Probably. Probably. Do you think Genesis? The only things he had were basic utilities, running water, heating and electricity and stacks of postcards required.
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to be able to send off the mail, right? So he had to be able to enter, so they gave him the postage to enter. Do you think when Genesis was recording that song, they said they were going to the Susu Studio? I hope they did. So, because he was nude, and this was being live streamed, they put an eggplant over his privates. Oh, what? What, so we got the eggplant emoji? Nasubi, it's now his nickname. He's known as Nasubi now.
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What does that mean? Because nesubi is the Japanese word for eggplant. Okay. Okay. Also he is the Guinness world record for longest time survived on competition winnings. 335 days. Wow. Okay. All right. Okay. So- This is wild. This, they're rigging these contests, right? How does he survive? How does he eat? To win food? To win food. I don't get this. He thought that the show, that they were just recording things to be edited.
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for a future show. Yes. In reality, it was live streamed. And the footage was aired every single week with sound effects at intervals and like 24 seven television. It's just a man reading magazines and entering sweepstakes. And it was a huge hit in Japan. It's kind of like the Truman show. Yeah. Millions of people watched this every single week. Did they have cameras in the bathroom?
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So that's why it was a huge change. At first, he had no food, only drinking water, and he was losing weight. And eventually he won sugary drinks from one of the sweepstakes. So essentially the way it works is they would put a dollar amount to everything he won. And he had to earn a million yen, which is like $8,000. Like eight bucks. And so the first thing he won was sugary drinks. And then he won a bag of rice. But he didn't have any way to cook the rice.
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to eat it. So he had just had to eat raw, hard rice? Oh no. He didn't have water, he didn't have a kitchen? Wait a minute. He devised a makeshift heating container with a discarded bag that he got the drinks in, and he was able to cook the rice by placing it next to the stove. But then his primary source of food became kibble dog food. Oh God. Because he won that after he ran out of the rice. So this dude is literally like surviving, and it's being filmed.
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on dog food and dry rice. Wow. Are there sponsors? Was it sponsored by Kibble? He eventually at one point won a stuffed toy and that became his friend. That's Wilson. Because he would talk to it and he called it his sensei. It was his only interaction. He never won clothing. He actually at one point won ladies underwear.
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but it was too small to fit. So he just sort of like lived naked. This is... I told you it was gonna be bananas. Torture, like... No, this is pure torture. Because these sweepstakes aren't real, right? It's just the producers of the show that are like, send them in women's underwear. What do we have? Kibble? He never won anything to trim his facial hair, fingernails, or his hair. So he just grew really long hair, huge beard. This is for almost a year, right?
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Yes, 335 days. Wow. He won prizes he was unable to use, but they would go towards his total, like movie tickets and a bicycle, but he couldn't use the bicycle, so he set up a way to create a stationary bike out of the bicycle so he could exercise. You gotta be careful riding a bike naked. They put it in rice, right? Because it won't get tracks. Exactly what he did. At one point, he won a TV, but the producers were scared of him seeing the outside world. Being able to see the outside world.
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So like then he won a PlayStation, but he actually only won the PlayStation game, not the PlayStation. This is. And the only game and then he won a PlayStation and the only game he had was a train simulator. Just played driving a train. So the show was so popular in Japanese households that people started figuring out where he was.
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and paparazzi would hang out outside. Wow. How did he not go completely insane? So then they had to figure out how to get him away from that to where people wouldn't know, because they didn't want him to know anything about the outside world. Wow. So they blindfolded him and transported him. And when he gets there, he's in a brand new apartment, similar like Spartan conditions. He was told that the change of space was for renewed luck.
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And then he continued doing entries to these sweepstakes. He eventually gets a chair and a desk. He had to enter so many magazines. Like, so, no, remember, like he eventually gets a chair and a desk. That's his first furniture. He's in a barren apartment. And he's naked. Naked with a stationary bike. Are people talking to him? Like, is he, like? Otherwise it's solitary confinement. Yeah, no, no, he's completely by himself. Okay, so it's torture. Yeah, it's torture. Eventually he wins a VCR.
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And two tapes. It doesn't say what the tapes are. Oh my God. And what he would get so like ingrained into playing the train simulator because it was the only like like stimulation he'd get. He would have to force himself to stop playing the train simulator so he could enter more sweepstakes. Oh man, it's like lab rats. So at one point, the way he won, the way he got his million yen goal, was he won four car tires? Okay.
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So like that got him to the dollar amount. 335 days after starting. After he was told he won, he was given his clothes back and he was blindfolded and then taken to a different surprise location. So he happily- This guy signed up for this? Yeah. Okay. But he didn't know what he was signing up for. But at some point, was he hitting the emergency exit button? Like I'm done? I knew that there was one. I'm done. They're just like leaving him in there? So-
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Japan is a whole other so he thought okay. I did it. I've won They're taking me to the place to give me my prize in my clothes. They unblindfold him and he's in south korea What? Why from japan? I think this whole thing gave him a full day at an amusement park. Oh my god like by himself Where and he was able to like eat all the food and then ride all the rides and then he was done
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he was taken to another apartment. What? Oh gosh. Yeah. This is like an episode of Lost. When did he die? It's like purgatory. And he once again was asked to take off his clothes to do the sweepstakes challenge again. I bet he did it, right? And he was like, I don't wanna do it, but he had agreed. So this time he had to win enough sweepstakes money to afford a plane back to Japan, where he's from. So he's in South Korea now. Wow.
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He's gotten so good at the sweepstakes game that he gets this time he wins in like a couple weeks. Now here's the question. How do you even win a sweepstakes? You just have to be chosen. Yeah, you just, like, if you do enough of them, I don't know, apparently like you get good at it. You're just splitting like hundreds of postcards for every one? So then he gets enough prize money so fast, the producers were like, we weren't expecting this. So now the new goal is you have to get enough tickets or enough money to get a business class ticket.
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And then he got that so fast. They were like, you have to get a first class ticket. Well, he gets that super fast. So then- What do you mean? He didn't just get mail, like it had to go through the producers, right? He earns, so he earns enough in first class to fly from South Korea to Japan. They blindfold him again. They give him clothes again. He's taken to another apartment in Japan. He gets there, he looks around, he realizes he's in another apartment. He's like, the game's starting again.
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So he just declothes. Wow. He knows. He's like, he's trained. He's like, I know my role here. He takes his clothes off. They take the blindfold off. He's like, all right, we're doing this again. All of a sudden the walls of the apartment fall down and he's on a studio, a TV studio with a live audience. Oh wow. Just standing there naked. This.
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This like makes me angry. Like poor bastard. And he was super confused because he didn't realize it had been broadcast. Like previously, he thought this was just all like earned footage. They were going to use later for a show. They were going to edit. People had been watching him the whole time. Yeah. He's like, has no idea why all these people are in the studio watching him. And super excited to see him. So the whole thing took like 15 months and, uh,
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He had been writing diaries the entire time his diaries during the time became a best-selling book in Japan Wow Okay, so he must have won pencils. He must have won the the TV show The TV the live the live stream TV show broke every single Japanese TV record It was bringing in 17 million viewers every Sunday night. Oh my gosh. What's the name of this show? Hold on. Yeah, super happy fun time
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Susunu Denpashonan, I'm assuming Shonan. Susunu Denpashonan. 17 and a half million viewers. So now he's back in regular life. And he finds clothing hot and sweaty, because he's been naked for years. He's Tom Hanks, coming back from Castaway. He has a really hard time carrying on conversations. He has a FedEx package, he hasn't opened up anyone, because he's going to deliver it. And then.
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like COVID comes around and he becomes the spokesperson for staying at home. He's like, here's how you do it. He's like, yeah, he's like, I know exactly how to handle this scenario. So he becomes, he becomes like the guy in COVID in Japan. And he tried standup comedy for a little while. Sure. Um, he ends up becoming a stage actor and he was in a stage.
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called the Eggplant Way. And he was in multiple different characters in that. Wow. He's a male skater. But like, yeah, but like after all that, he ended up like, and obviously like he's, he's, he's very well documented about like how bad his mental health is because of that. Yeah. And like how much like he's gone through to like kind of get to the other side of that. Wow. He's now a celebrity in Japan. He's very well known. He's like goes around and gives like a speaking.
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engagements and things like that. In 2016, he successfully scaled Mount Everest. Good for him. Sure. Like, because I would imagine that that dude has like the mental strength. Oh, just a freaking better- Nothing can break that guy. Like that dude, that dude like would look at at Bud's, the Navy SEAL training and be like-
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Yeah, okay. He's like, I can do that naked. When David Goggins is like, who's going to carry the boats? He's like, I'll carry it by myself, buddy. I don't need any of these other people. What is going on in Japan? Is that wild? That was the highest rated show is watching this poor guy in a room. 17 million people every Sunday night. Losing his mind. Just losing his mind. What? Starving?
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What was his friend, his sensei? What was his sensei? Oh, it just says stuffed animal. It doesn't say what kind of stuffed animal, but he called it his sensei. They definitely had a relationship. Oh, I wonder if it was like a ninja turtle. That'd be cool. Yeah, he won. A splinter. I mean, that's the most banana story I've ever heard. Like this dude was just. Tumake Hatsui? Hold on. Yeah, you're right. We do need to. So, well, he's Nasubi.
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is what he's called now, which is the Japanese word for eggplant, but his name is Tomoaki Hamatsu. Okay. Um, I mean, that even know where to start with that. Like you think you're going on a game show and they're just like, all right, you got to get naked. And I'm assuming like in the moment you're like, okay, yeah, all right. Well, that's part of the rules. Like that's part of the thing. And like in a couple days, see anyone for a year, a full year, a full year.
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And then when you think you won and you're like, all right, I did it. They're going to give me money. I'm going to like have some sort of prize out of this. They're like, nope. Now you're in an amusement park. Season two. Also now you have to figure out how to get back to it. There couldn't be windows in this place, right? Cause they would look out on like the outside world. I don't know, man. This is. That's like, it's terrifying if you think too long about it. It's like if Guantanamo Bay live stream was like the number one thing here. Yeah.
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So there were other guests on this show. I'm just what were they doing? You couldn't visit him Yeah, the first guy was rice or like a mailman like uh, sim or whatever. So the second season of the show after him There was other people. Oh, yeah Two people were put on desert island with no food or clue where they were And then they were told if they built a raft and reached tokyo they would win. Oh, that's like that show What's the naked took them four months? Yeah, so it became naked and afraid. Yeah
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And then they went into Africa. They went to the Cape of Good Hope in South Africa and they had to get to Norway, but they couldn't use any money. You just had to persuade people from the Cape of Good Hope to Norway without any money. That's like the amazing race. It was like the third season. Yeah, it is amazing race. Third season. It looks like it had something to do with baseball players. Oh yeah. No, they were fans of baseball teams and the only thing that was on TV.
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was their favorite baseball team, and they were only allowed food if their baseball team won. Oh gosh. And if they lost, the lights would just shut off and there would be no power until the next game. It's terrifying. Look, how is this legal? It's not, it can't be legal. What is happening in Japan? Where that is like accepted. Well, also like if you followed.
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the first guy, why would you ever agree to be on the show? If someone is listening to this right now in Japan, and you can explain to us what is going on behind this game, please let us know. Yeah, just blink twice if you're in danger. So if the baseball team went on like a winning streak, the food would progressively get better every night. But if they went on a losing streak, it would just be dark for days at a time. It was just like, no food.
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And like your prize at the end of the series was based purely on how good your baseball team was. Oh man, here we have like- So like if you're an Alabama fan, like this show, you're fine. Yeah, filet on that. If you're a fan of Vanderbilt, you're just living in the dark. Yeah. When you said there was guests on the show, the first thought I had was Ed McMahon.
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Hey, oh, not getting any food tonight. He comes in with the big check and just leaves it. He can do absolutely nothing except for maybe cook rice over it. How did you hear about this? This random Instagram account I follow told some of the story and I was like, that's good episode for the... So I looked it up and like it's, I mean, it's pure torture. That is Guantanamo Bay level torture. I wonder what his stand up act was. All they left out was putting him in a small box and playing Metallica for...
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Or crying babies for 19 hours. Oh gosh. I mean, good night. 335 days. Oh, 30 days. It's psychological warfare. Like imagine the room we're in. It is torture. Yeah. Take this table out of it. Take that couch. Take everything out of this room. Yep. Except the pre-Fontaine poster. Can we keep that? Yeah. Yeah, because it's, yeah. Get naked. And then here's some magazines. Win what you can live with.
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That's crazy. What magazines have like, okay nevermind. Good housekeeping. Well I don't know, I don't know what Japanese magazines. I know, that's what I'm wondering. They're probably super weird. Like you'd also have to imagine that a ton of people were like, I'm gonna enter the same stuff as him. Because if I win, he loses. Yeah, the magazine companies would be like, let's do it. Because that's part of watching that type of show, right? Yeah. It's like you don't want him to win. Right.
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Like you want to see how long he'll survive without winning. You want to see him suffer. So you want to enter, yeah, you want to enter. Like, but that's like, that's part of like hate watching, right? It's such a sociological experiment. Man, is this guy still alive? Yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah. I told you he was like the spokesperson for Japan during the lockdown. He's like, guys, I know. He was like, no, here's how you lock down. Like you just have to mentally like it's.
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Well, no, I mean, I'm sure he didn't encourage people to get naked It's just pixelated But I'm sure that he was like no like I was super screwed up by this process But like there's definitely a way you can stay in your house and keep other people safe Like that's that's a valuable message Find a good train simulator game Yeah Just God, did he have to win toilet paper? I wonder if that weird No, all the pages from the magazines I wonder if that weird
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British dude that puts the GoPro facing his own face and gets really excited about trains. Like watch that show. He's so happy. You know what I'm talking about. I know exactly who that guy is. He's so excited. Like I definitely thought that guy was like mentally ill for a while and I was like no he just really likes trains. He just really likes trains. He just loves trains. He gets so excited. He does. He sees like, oh that's a 57.
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Somebody should put him in a room. Take all of his clothes. Here you go, train simulator for a year, buddy. That guy made something to make rice in. That's wild that he had to force himself to stop playing the train simulation game to actually... Yeah, like he was like, actually, I don't want to play a train simulation game for the rest of my life. The only way I get out of the train simulation is to stop playing it so I can force myself to fill out these forms. There is nothing.
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not wild about this story. It has to be. Yeah. Like I, I, I was, when I saw the story, I was like, I think this tops any story Russ has had. Yeah. Cause you're usually the one that brings the heat. I brought knife hands. Yeah. Well, but like you also brought like wheelbarrow monkey guy. Yeah. You bought lobster claws. I did. Lobster hands. Like I feel like this tops all of them. Yeah. And I'm real proud of it. A horse that can detect if people is someone like a harlot. Yeah.
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Your move, Steve Harvey. Yeah. Wow. Blaine, thank you. That story is wild. It was something. Gosh, guys, thanks for listening. We're gonna come back in a couple weeks with another episode that is coming. Sure are. It's gonna be great. Every two weeks, every Wednesday, I never forget, Russ doesn't have to remind me. No, not at once, has Russ ever had to remind you to upload the audio. There's only been one episode that came late and it was like nine a.m. on a Wednesday, because Russ was like, wasn't today supposed to be an episode? I was like, oh crap.
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